Touch of Class look-alikes?

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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby thy » Oct 25, 2010 3:45 pm

The price is just calculated around $ 13,50 to 14

Can't see any differences from this one to some of my h. Junes :hmm:
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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby renaldo75 » Oct 25, 2010 11:36 pm

You can be my 'shipping agent' then, Pia. ;)
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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby thy » Oct 27, 2010 5:40 pm

Want p ants... just PM me :lol:
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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby redcrx » Sep 20, 2012 7:55 pm

An old topic but a good one.

I was looking at some shots of Touch of Class to post on a current topic and came across this topic. I was planning on discussing this anyway because I have new shots. Here are some comparison shots of Catherine, Dinner Jacket, Grand Marquee and a new look-a-like Just June.
Catherine & Dinner Jacket & Grand Marquee & Just June 12 0669.JPG

Catherine & Dinner Jacket 12 01211z20-5-8.jpg

Dinner Jacket & Grand Marquee 12 01212z23-5-8.jpg

Grand Marquee & Just June 12 01213z20-5-8.jpg

These do all look like Touch of Class but the next shot is a different Grand Marquee that gets a lot of sun and this would be 2 months later in the season. I think Touch of Class in the sun is still Touch of Class.
Grand Marquee 12 03545zbz23-7-9.jpg
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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby irawon » Sep 21, 2012 8:40 am

Thanks Chris for starting this thread and the rest of you for your posts. You just saved me a lot of money. I like Tof C so much I probably would have bought the other look-a-likes without realizing they were look-a-likes until I brought them home. I already have 2 Paradise Joyce and now know that Olympic Sunrise and Katherine Lewis would be good additions.

I checked out Luc Klinkenhammer's website due to a post in this thread. He has pictures of 2 Grand Marquees shown and they look different. Does anyone know what that's about? I've been wanting to acquire a GM.

Also, after reading this thread I researched tetraploids on the wikipedia page but I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer. How can you tell that a Halcyon is a tetraploid without testing? Is it the thickness of the leaves? Besides Halcyon, I also have Canadian Blue. Fransen's website says that CB is a Halcyon selection. Would that mean the same thing as a tetraploid Halcyon?
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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby Chris_W » Sep 21, 2012 9:33 am

Thanks for bringing this one up again. First, in response to Ed's post, I've grown Touch of Class in hot afternoon sunlight and it looks like a totally different plant, much like your Grand Marquee picture in full sun.

The tetraploid issue is a tough one. It used to be thought that any plant with extra thick leaves and/or every wide margined sport was tetraploid, but testing has shown that this simply isn't the case. People often associate tetraploid with increased vigor, and that isn't the case either. Testing has shown that many of those wide margined sports were not full tetraploid, and others thought to be tetraploid were not. Fully tetraploid plants as found in testing were also sometimes plants with decreased vigor - not to say they didn't grow, they were just slower to grow or slower to multiply. So to answer your question, the only way to know for certain would be to have the plant tested, which isn't something that can be easily done. But from the testing that has been done we really can never assume a plant is tetraploid just from growing it and looking at it.

As for Canadian Blue possibly being a selection from Halcyon, Fransen is basically saying "It is probably just a Halcyon that got renamed." Canadian Blue was registered as parentage unknown, but is virtually identical to Halcyon and lots of people think it is the same as Halcyon.

We frequently get culls from Devon Green that are powdery blue so are essentially reversions back to Halcyon. This would be a case where someone could give these blue culls a new name and start selling them, but they will be the same as Halcyon. If I was to call it something like "Blue Spears" and register it as parentage unknown, in 10 years or so people would just be saying it looks identical to Halcyon and would suggest it is a selection of Halcyon, much like Canadian Blue.

Hope that wasn't too confusing :)

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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes?

Postby irawon » Sep 21, 2012 10:06 am

No, Chris that was an excellent answer. You get 100%.
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Re: Touch of Class look-alikes? - Magic Island

Postby redcrx » Feb 15, 2013 9:56 am

I was working on Olympic Sunrise for a "Hosta of the Day". While searching the archives I found this topic and came across the mention of Magic Island as a ToC look-alike. I got Magic Island in 2011 and thought it was more June-like. Except of-course I'm looking at a young one. This one did not come back in 2012 - don't know what happened - it had a good spot, water, light - many others in the same space with no problems.

Magic Island is listed as a sport of Catherine.

Hosta Registry - http://www.hostaregistrar.org/detail.php?id=4155&Variety=Magic%20Island
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