Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 13, 2015 10:32 am

I did show this one last season but this is a better photo. The center of the flower shows a "star" pattern and the center stripe coloration goes into the throat of the flower.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 15, 2015 5:26 am

One of the old ones from 2012 finally opened flowers yesterday. It's labeled as a #102. It's different because it has a frosted look on the top of the leaf as well as the bottom. It may also have the darkest leaves (there is another small one with dark leaves). The flowers are tiny relative to other #102's.
AWS #102 V-8 Frosted 15 f 01162.JPG


(Edit - I decided to attach leaf photos.)
A bridge pose before I painted the bridge. Those on the left are Easter Cactus.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 15, 2015 8:49 am

A couple more this morning.

The first is a new one and similar to a few others.
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The next is a later flower on a plant shown earlier this month. It had been labeled "maybe Miss Ruby seedling".
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 18, 2015 5:15 pm

It will be interesting to see the flowers on these. I can't tell if the scape is red or brown.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 19, 2015 10:19 am

A few today:
AWS 13 A-1 15 f 01554.JPG

AWS 13 M-1 15 f 01560.JPG

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AWS 14 Katsuragawa Beni seedling #2 08 15 f 01518.JPG

And a different AWS 14 Katsuragawa Beni seedling from a few days ago and really different from the flower above.
AWS 14 B-1 Katsuragawa Beni seedling 15 f 01435.JPG
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 22, 2015 11:36 am

A couple "new" ones today. I think there are only 2 new ones left to open.

The first I thought was Miss Ruby by the foliage but the flower is wrong. It's the same pattern as a few others.
t81 AWS 13 L-2 Miss Ruby-like 15 01731.JPG


The next is a small flower from Art's #102 line (Bill's White Back X One Man's Treasure).
AWS #102 V-7 15 01742.JPG
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 23, 2015 8:56 am

Just one "new" one today - One Man's Treasure seedling with a lot more color than the original One Man's Treasure flower.
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For comparison I'm adding a One Man's Treasure flower photo form 2011 (the last time it gave me flowers - don't know what's wrong with it).
One Man's Treasure 11 f 0528-9-18.JPG


And one more for today that I have shown before - a Katsuragawa Beni seedling - the later flowers seem to get darker.
AWS 14 Katsuragawa Beni seedling #2 08 15 f 01788.JPG

AWS 14 Katsuragawa Beni seedling #2 08 15 f 01789.JPG
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 25, 2015 6:06 pm

The last one finally opened today but the flowers are tiny and rather plain. One thing that is different it has light anthers - most others are dark pink or purple.
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Here is a very late flower from one shown last season. It has the darkest anthers of the group.
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And a flower from a second scape.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Sep 29, 2015 12:49 pm

Just some oddities that showed up on these flowers.

I just noticed how long the pedicles are on this version of the #102 series.
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And a front view of the flower with an ant posing for its picture.
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Here is a photo of two flowers sharing the same bract. These later flower are larger than the first ones that opened.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Oct 03, 2015 7:21 pm

I was working on some photos of another Miss Angie seedling today. It didn't flower this season so I went hunting through last season's photos and found a couple flower shots. This is AWS Miss Angie seedling Q3-A. It's a good sized green plant with red petioles.

Flowers from 2014 season:
Miss Angie seedling Q3-A 14 f 00090-8-23.JPG

Here are plant photos from this season.
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Miss Angie seedling Q3-A 15 00328-5-15.JPG

Sibling photos with Q2-B (Miss Shamim) on the left and Q1-C on the right.
Miss Angie seedlings Q2-B & Q3-A & Q1-C 15 00325-5-15.JPG

Miss Angie seedlings Q2-B & Q3-A & Q1-C 15 00312-5-15.JPG
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Oct 03, 2015 7:34 pm

To give some background to this plant and group here are some photos form 2012 when Art gave me the 4 pack.
Top/left is the quarter with this plant and a bright yellow.
Miss Angie quad 12 0604.JPG

Miss Angie -3 12 0823.JPG

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In this last photo you can see a bright yellow one. It is still tiny - Q3-B
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Oct 13, 2015 4:36 pm

Working on my photos today I found these - a seedling of Almost. The buds have an interesting color.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Apr 06, 2016 4:58 pm

I started this topic in 2014 when I found a seedling flower that had a colorful edge to it.

Early in the flowering cycle:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57978&hilit=wrede#p494887

Late in the flower cycle (shown in a different topic):
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60316#p501005

The plant didn't flower during the 2015 season.

I re-potted the plant a couple of days ago and while moving it around today noticed one of the shoots was showing some streaking. Hopefully it will flower this season.

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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » May 04, 2016 6:56 am

My garden names for these two:

Miss Selene and Miss Miranda

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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Jul 16, 2016 7:19 am

Here is a new one - relatively early, long flowers that are white. The plant is plain green with some color in the petioles and some white on the back.
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And obviously different from it's later flowering brethren.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Jul 23, 2016 8:23 am

I have been waiting to see flowers on this one for a few years. It's not directly out of Art Wrede's collection but took a detour. Back in 2012 Art gave his plants to Roger Smith - there were thousands when you broke down the pots. Roger would offer many of the unnamed ones to visitors to his garden including me. One time while looking at the many unnamed plants that came out of Art's plants, I noticed two with a "different" look to them. Roger said take them. The petioles had a somewhat different red color to them. I called them "Red Twizzler Sticks". The leaves have become shiny and rounder over the years and the plants have a strong resemblance to a plant I have called Eye of the Storm which is an all green sport of The Perfect Storm. The Perfect Storm is a red petioled streaker seedling that Art developed out of Sailor's Warning. I was wondering if these plants weren't just green hunks that came off The Perfect Storm as Art was growing it. The flowers are very similar.
Red Twizzler Sticks 16 f 03338.JPG

Red Twizzler Sticks 16 f 03336.JPG

"Red Twizzer Sticks" and Eye of the Storm plants side-by-side. RTS is the smaller plant on the left.
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Eye of the Storm and "Red Twizzer Sticks" flowers. The RTS flowers are on the right in this photo.
Eye of the Storm and Red Twizzler Sticks 16 f 03341.JPG

I wasn't happy with the picture above - I couldn't get the right angle on the Eye of the Storm flower. I went and got a flower picture from another "sport" of The Perfect Storm I'm calling "Edge of the Storm" (I have shown this plant on this forum before). I cropped them and placed them side-by-side.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Jul 31, 2016 3:06 pm

These are "Miss Selene" flowers this season (this is a seedling of Miss Angie). I missed the first ones to open. Getting photos today I noticed only 5 petals. I went back to get more photos and found that both open flowers on different scapes only have 5 petals showing. The sixth is deformed and wrapped around the filament and anther or merged with it.
I was looking to see what the flower stripes look like this season and noticed the petal missing.
Miss Angie seedling Q1-A Miss Selene 16 f 03649.JPG

Getting some extra photos I notice the second flower also.
Miss Angie seedling Q1-A Miss Selene 16 f 03655.JPG

Here my thumb is holding back the deformed petal.
Miss Angie seedling Q1-A Miss Selene 16 f 03656.JPG

Here you can see the filament seems to have color.
Miss Angie seedling Q1-A Miss Selene 16 f 03658.JPG

Miss Angie seedling Q1-A Miss Selene 16 f 03660.JPG

There are 3 scapes, so lots more flowers to see.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Aug 02, 2016 6:49 am

The next flowers on "Miss Selene" were normal.
Miss Selene 16 f 03685.JPG

Miss Selene 16 f 03687.JPG



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The petal on the bottom/left is probably the one that was deformed on the other flowers.
This flower is a good example of striping differences between the sepal on the top/left and the petal top/center. The sepal is missing most of its center stripe. While the petal's central stripe is almost as long as the two adjacent stripes.

When I was looking for a name for this plant I starting searching for something with a "crescent" shape. That was the shape at the "bottom" of the stripes caused by the missing center stripe. Selene is the goddess of the moon in Greek mythology and her symbol is a crescent. So that kind-of worked. But I also found somewhere on Google it mentions that "Selene" was "the Mother of Vampires". The "Selene" part of this plant's name came from the look of the sepal with the two long descending stripes. So Selene is either a lunar goddess or the mother of vampires.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Aug 15, 2016 5:34 am

These are some photos from a couple of years ago. I don't think I have ever posted this one. It is unusual from the point of view that it is so plain - just All Plain Green. No color in the petiole or scape, nothing notable about the leaf and not much notable about the flower except it's larger than the others here. But this season I noticed that the flower has fragrance. So it must have plantaginea in its background. That makes this plant very unusual in this grouping where Art was using Katsuragawa Beni, longipes hypoglauca, longipes latifolia, Riptide, Candy Dish and many others for his crosses which add "features" to the seedlings.
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Here is the flower in 2014.
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Here is the flower this season when I noticed the fragrance.
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Re: Seedling Flowers out of Art Wrede's Collection

Postby redcrx » Aug 19, 2016 6:34 am

A couple more of these that I haven't shown before. Nothing really notable. When Art gave these to me I separated them by similar foliage. These are from a group I called the "I" series. There were 9 at first but as they evolve and I see different flowers on them they get a different designation.

Here is I-5 and I-7. But I-7 will be "renamed" to Q-2 because the flower is different.
AWS 13 I-5 16 f 5243b-8-18.jpg

This flower has a very wide tranlucent margin.
AWS 13 I-7 16 f 5244b-8-18.jpg
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