Hellebore seed exchange?

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Hellebore seed exchange?

Postby viktoria » Mar 16, 2007 12:13 pm

How about we collect some seeds (must be fresh) to trade?

I have double, anemone-flowered, picotee, white, pinks, reds and H. foetidus. Nobody knows what the offspring will look like.

I would recommend one or two dozen seeds/envelope, labelled as to parent type/color. Names do not matter since the offspring will be bustards.
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Postby Hapygdnr » Mar 19, 2007 2:18 pm

I have no (hellebore) seeds to trade since I am just starting out with them, got my first one last yr, but would love to try growing some from seed. I hope some members here will want to try the exchange. Good idea!
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Postby pauhaus » Mar 19, 2007 9:00 pm

Hey Viktoria, I'm in! Great idea. :P
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Postby Tigger » Mar 20, 2007 12:28 pm

Is there a primer on here for starting hellebores from seed? So far in my garden, God hasn't been keeping up his end, so I could use some info on how to help him.
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Postby viktoria » Mar 20, 2007 1:20 pm

I have scads of seedlings all around my hellebores, Tigger, so I don't know what to tell you! As for sowing them, you need FRESH seed, a neutral (or close to it) growing medium and consistent moisture. Hellebores do not like to have their roots disturbed, so prick out the seedlings and pot up (2-3" pots) as soon as first leaves appear and re-pot into quarts or 1/2 gallons in early September. I use soluble fertilizer at 1/2 strength plus Osmocote (or any other slow-release fertilizer).

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Postby KellieD » Mar 20, 2007 10:52 pm

I've had no problems with hellebores with disturbing their roots. I've dug, transplanted and divided at all times of the year and haven't ever lost a one.
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Postby kHT » Mar 20, 2007 11:32 pm

Gosh I just transplanted 12 ~ 2 year old seedlings this morning and they look great? I hate to say it but a couple I had to pull out by the roots. :wink: I have plenty of seedlings right now, got to move many of them shortly!
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Postby Tigger » Mar 21, 2007 7:45 am

Well, I'll keep my eyes open. I don't have too many (yet), but got a Kingston Cardinal (double red from Heronswood) last year and am looking forward to seeing it bloom.

Is it obvious when to gather the seed?

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Postby viktoria » Mar 21, 2007 1:58 pm

It is not obvious, Tigger. The seed pods stay green for a long time but if you wait too long, you will find them open and empty. One way to make sure you "catch" them is to take a piece of nylon stocking (hate to think of you cutting up your pantyhose :o ), wrap it around a full-size seed head and fasten it with a twist tie, paper clip or clothespin. Then you can wait in peace for it to open.

We may just have invented a new kind of garden ornament?

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Postby viktoria » Mar 21, 2007 1:59 pm

It is not obvious, Tigger. The seed pods stay green for a long time but if you wait too long, you will find them open and empty. One way to make sure you "catch" them is to take a piece of nylon stocking (hate to think of you cutting up your pantyhose :o ), wrap it around a full-size seed head and fasten it with a twist tie, paper clip or clothespin. Then you can wait in peace for it to open.

We may just have invented a new kind of garden ornament?

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Postby Tigger » Mar 21, 2007 3:54 pm

Well won't that look lovely right next to the front door (where my hellebores are)?

But my friends know me, and will chalk it up to my scientist nature.
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Postby KellieD » Mar 21, 2007 6:33 pm

Heronswood always harvested the seed when the seed pods were fat, plump and filled out but before the pods split open. They were put into brown paper bags to finish curing and none of the seeds were lost that way. Very important when doing controlled crosses.
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Postby doublemom2 » Apr 19, 2007 3:13 pm

I've gotten dozens (or more!) of seedlings by just letting the seeds ripen and fall to the ground themselves wherever they please. By early the next spring there are dozens and dozens of babies that have germinated in the ground all around the mother plants. I then pot them up to make sure they don't get covered up by the mommy's leaves completely. Most of my 1-year old helle-babies that I potted up last spring are filling 1-gallon pots with huge root systems. They weren't bothered one bit by being dug up and potted. I do think the seeds like to go through the regular winter cycle outdoors, at least my seeds are happy that way!

If I manage to actually catch any seed pods before opening I'll join in on the trade :)

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Postby viktoria » Apr 19, 2007 4:21 pm

My hellebores are only just beginning to show growth! We had 16" of snow last weekend and the ground was still all white yesterday. Sixties today are melting it fast!

Andi, I also have gazillion seedlings around my hellebores and have potted some up. I have not been very successful with keeping the potted babies alive.
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Postby kHT » Apr 20, 2007 9:19 am

I'm Game!
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Postby viktoria » Apr 20, 2007 2:30 pm

Please save/send me seeds of anything interesting, KHT. I can send you seeds of double pink, picotee and anemone-flowered. I'll post pics once they bloom.

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Postby kHT » Apr 20, 2007 7:39 pm

Do you think I'll have a few??? I took 38 babies out from under the 3 mom plants.
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Postby toomanyanimals » Apr 22, 2007 6:29 am

Karama, are those seed pods? I got my hellebores 3 years ago. Last year and this year they have bloomed, they are the green ones. But I've never seen a seed pod on them.
I did order a few new ones from a co-op, 2 double, 2 red, 2 metallic blue. The red ones were blooming when they arrived last week, it was pink, not red, but still a nice color.

Yours seem to be very happy and healthy. Mine struggle where they are at ... or maybe this is the 3 year so they will do well now. :)

Good Luck to you all with the seed trade!
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Postby kHT » Apr 22, 2007 10:54 am

Yep TMA those would be seed pods!! I tickled several of them with my trusty paintbrushes and it takes a few years for them to catch on. These had plenty of shade up until a year ago but now have more sun than they really like. I was surprised how huge they got this year with more light.
So get out those paintbrushes.
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Postby Tigger » Apr 23, 2007 9:23 am

Wouldn't you know we were doing some early spring rearranging and I found two hellebore babies (one growing right in with the crown of a Krossa Regal hosta we decided to move, the other—of course—growing right against the cement foundation of the house). Hopefully they'll both survive the transplant (back into the hole where Krossa Regal was, with lots of fresh compost).

Kingston Cardinal finally started opening a bloom this weekend, after hanging there with fat buds for ages. And the Pine Knot Select (a gift direct from Wayside) still hasn't bloomed in its third year. I'll try to get seeds from the double one (is that a trait passed on?).
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