Pic of the Day--Darwin's Standard

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Pic of the Day--Darwin's Standard

Postby Hank Zumach » Aug 24, 2007 9:21 am

Hi All--Darwin's Standard is the last of our 2002 purchases that were planted in the area of our garden that I have been "touring" for the last 6 weeks or so. It is also one of the most attractive of that very, very nice group of hostas. Growing in a spot under a full forest canopy, Darwin's Standard quickly reached the over all size expected for a mature plant, 30x20, according to Lemke's listing. Its measurements have been 27x13, 32x12, 34x15, 37x15, 41x15 and 45x17; apparently the plant will forever be wider and a bit shorter than the norm. Slugs have not evolved an interest in Darwin's Standard plant.

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Postby hubble » Aug 24, 2007 10:04 am

Hank, how does Darwin's Standard compare to Gold Standard? I have Gold Standard in high canopy and while it grows well, I do not like how the margin blurs into the gold. I would like a more sharper margin to gold look. From your pics, it looks like Darwin's Standard might be the one. Or, would you recommend something else?

Thanks Hank! As always, love your pics and continue to learn from you.

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Postby nanny_56 » Aug 24, 2007 10:38 am

I like that one. Very pretty plant!
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Postby wishiwere » Aug 24, 2007 12:40 pm

Oh dear! :o Both of mine are at that standard size (30 X20) and shoulder to shoulder with others, so I'm supposing if they are going to follow suit with yours, I better get someone moved!

Nice pics Hank! :D

I love this hosta! Its one that doesn't require much of anything. One has sun from 10-3 and looks great, the other just filtered from 1-5 and looks even better except for the petals and bird doo-doo it collects! :(
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Postby Hank Zumach » Aug 24, 2007 12:55 pm

Karen--I'm not sure about recommending one over the other because both are very nice varieties and I athink it is a matter of personal preference. Depending on the size of the space you have, you might also consider Dick Ward, Satisfaction, Inniswood, Alex Summers or Old Glory.


Jane--How old are your plants?
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Postby wishiwere » Aug 24, 2007 6:44 pm

Hank, I'll have to look when I go inside, but it was spring of 2003 or maybe 2004 at the latest. I'm almost positive it was from my first Hallson's visit also. I'll double check, here's a pic of the one in the shadier area.

The first one gets the most sun, the second is the one that's in dappled shade all day by an arbor to the west and a plum tree south of it.
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Postby newtohosta-no more » Aug 25, 2007 9:44 am

I love this one and received mine in a secret trade. It grows really well. It's looking quite stressed now because of the weather we've had, but here is a pic from last year. Mine gets morning sun, but is shaded in the afternoon.
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Postby DBoweMD » Aug 27, 2007 8:39 am

It is extremely similar to Paradigm. Some have argued that it is the same plant, but Chris has told me he can see a difference.
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Postby wishiwere » Aug 27, 2007 9:34 am

Wow! You are right, they do appear to be similar! Do you remember what Chris said he saw that told him the difference?
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Postby Linda P » Aug 27, 2007 9:51 am

I have my Darwin's Standard and Paradigm planted on opposite sides of the sidewalk, and I can definitely see a difference. It's hard to describe, but it's there. The main thing is the difference in growth rates, at least for me, anyway. DS grew about twice as fast as Paradigm. Also, there seem to be more shades of gold in the center of DS, especially when it gets a bit more light. I've picked a leaf off one plant and had someone put it in the other one to see if I can find it, and I always can. This year I've pretty much leaning to the theory that one of the plants Walmart sold a few years back as Polar Moon is actually Darwin's Standard.
I've also done the 'hide the leaf' test with Darwin's Standard and the Not Polar Moon plant, and I can't pick it out. I can tell NO difference whatsoever between the two plants. I think I will try to take pics and start a different thread one of these days to compare them.
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Postby ckp » Aug 28, 2007 9:54 am

If you want a beautiful tough hosta Darwin S. is it. We cut down a nasty small Amur Maple because of it's roots on a cool Sunday the middle of last June. The next day a heat wave started from which we little relief until recently. All survived after frying, some down right crispy. Darwin though, had just a little brown on the edges of 2 or 3 leaves and stayed beautiful. I really love this hosta. ckp
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Postby Chris_W » Aug 28, 2007 10:16 am

This really is a nice looking, easy to grow, great plant :)

When growing this side by side with Paradigm, the Paradigm got bigger. Vein spacing was larger on Paradigm and the leaves were larger on a Paradigm that was actually younger than Darwin's Standard.

Originally Darwin's Standard was said to be a possible sport of Gold Standard, but the flowers and bloom time do not match at all, so that's not it. I've often wondered if it was in the August Moon family but I keep forgetting to compare it to the other August Moon sports like September Sun, Lunar Orbit, and Polar Moon. Linda might also be on to the same track there! We really need to compare blooms and bloom time to see if it is related to those.

I have a sport of Darwin's Standard with a medium green center and a yellow margin. The green color in the center is lighter than Abiqua Moonbeam and might be close to JGH's August Moon sport called Hosta 'Xela'.

Attached is a picture of my Darwin's Standard sport. Last Sunday a visitor suggested the name Darwin's Theory and I love it! The name might be better than the hosta :lol:
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Postby DBoweMD » Aug 28, 2007 10:59 am

I also love the name Darwin's Theory!
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Postby wishiwere » Aug 28, 2007 12:42 pm

Ditto on the name!
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Postby Tigger » Aug 28, 2007 2:27 pm

How about calling it 'Intelligent Design' (i.e. the opposite of Darwin's Standard)?

Hmmm... would that make it sell better or worse?
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Re: Pic of the Day--Darwin's Standard

Postby Chris_W » Nov 11, 2012 6:37 pm

Interesting to bring up such old threads and see what we were talking about.

Back then there was some debate about Darwin's Standard and its origins, and at the time I felt that there were enough differences between Darwin's Standard and Paradigm for me to believe they were different but very similar plants.

Well, 4 to 5 years later I've finally concluded that yes, they probably are the same. Flowers, shape, color, height all seem identical. Clump sizes have come closer to being about the same when I've planted them side by side in the same conditions. They are so close to each other that I would say that they are either both green edged sports of Abiqua Recluse, or Darwin's Standard was a renaming of a clump of Paradigm.

The sport that I was talking about above still exists here, but much of it sported over to a solid yellow plant that I've since separated out and I now have a couple massive clumps of both (the solid yellows and the plant pictured above). Some day I'll do something with it, but one thing I need to do is try growing it in a few different locations to see what it needs for the best coloring. I moved it to a spot in tons of sunlight and unfortunately the center green part bleached to more of a yellow so it is hard to see the variegation. I wasn't too happy with that, which is why I never did anything with this clump...

But back to Darwin's Standard, like I mentioned, I've come around to the thinking that it is another Paradigm. :)
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Re: Pic of the Day--Darwin's Standard

Postby redcrx » Oct 17, 2014 9:18 am

Just grabbed a couple of photos of this one today.

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Re: Pic of the Day--Darwin's Standard

Postby redcrx » May 24, 2017 4:05 am

Darwin's Standard this season - this plant, somehow, wasn't destroyed by the voles a few years ago.
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Re: Pic of the Day--Darwin's Standard

Postby redcrx » Jun 20, 2017 8:33 pm

Darwin's Standard with flowers:
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