Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Jul 18, 2017 10:22 am

Here is one that opened its flowers today. I had been guessing about its parentage but I now think it's Lacy Belle.

Here is the group with Lacy Belle dominating the photo. At the bottom/right are two weedlings, one of them has a scape about 4 feet tall - huge compared to everything else in there and it's straight up. The scape has a wax coating giving it a bluish appearance.
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The flowers are huge to match.
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I compared the flower to Lacy Belle - they are similar except for the size difference.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 14, 2017 9:06 am

One of my gravel weedlings that I have shown in previous seasons.
Starting its scapes - 2 "main" upright scapes and 15 lateral smaller scapes - one of its scapes got broken off and it may have been upright.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 14, 2017 9:33 am

Another one with a really pretty flowers and lots of them but the plant disintegrates "early" in the season - you can see lots of leaves going yellow already (I wonder if it would do better with more sun). I showed this last season - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56350&start=100#p501963
That's 'Sweet Innocence' at the top - that's the best it has looked in years (there had been a Japanese Pencil Holly sitting on top of it). And that's 'Waving Winds' just above the weedling.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 17, 2017 7:54 am

The scape count is at 29 today and it has started to open flowers.
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From the "back" side:
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 18, 2017 7:35 am

An update on a shiny leafed little plant that I posted back in April - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56350&start=100#p502493

This little guy got stepped on (a hazard when you decide to grow in my gravel paths). But has recovered and is trying to flower with a couple of scapes. I always wonder about the parentage - there is an 'Obsession' in a trough nearby.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 21, 2017 6:18 am

I have a few of this style weedlings. Plants look virtual identical - dark green oval leaves with a slight wave.
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And I expect to see this dark striped flower - from the second plant shown here.
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But that first plant fooled me and put out a much larger flower and different coloration.
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I got another surprise when I got a profile photo showing different lengths of the stamen. This suggests to me a yingeri is involved. I would think laevigata, which is nearby, but I thought it was sterile. There is a 'Korean Snow' off a-ways and my gravel weedling (probable seedling of Korean Snow) in between.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 30, 2017 11:15 am

I got surprised this morning when I saw this flower. I thought it was from Miss Jody's Special but following the scape I found it was a small weedling next to MJS.
There is a lot going on in this first photo. Miss Jody's Special is on the left hidden by the volunteer tomato that I have been getting fruit from. On the right is a red cardinal flower weedling that I need to get out. The hosta top/right is (I think) Lakeside Zesty Zeno. In roughly the middle of the top edge is another hosta volunteer.

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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby Pieter » Aug 31, 2017 11:52 am

I got another surprise when I got a profile photo showing different lengths of the stamen. This suggests to me a yingeri is involved. I would think laevigata, which is nearby, but I thought it was sterile. There is a 'Korean Snow' off a-ways and my gravel weedling (probable seedling of Korean Snow) in between.

Ed, yingeri has different length stamens, laevigata has equal length ones and is notoriously poor at sexual reproduction. Schmid classified laevigata as a specie in 1991 but postulates this taxon may in fact be a natural hybrid. My laevigata sport 'Ray of Hope' is very floriferous and I seldom see pods on it but I have found it a usable pollen donor.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Aug 31, 2017 7:15 pm

Pieter, in the 2010 update of species in the Hosta Library, Schmid twice states that the stamen are the same size but also at one point states they are different lengths - http://www.hostalibrary.org/species/pdf/laevigata.pdf
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And in the same article he has photos - two of which, to me, show different length stamen.

I have been photographing laevigata and Roller Coaster Ride for years and posting the photos here. When I can get a clear profile, it shows 3 long and 3 short.
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I don't have any really good photos this season - the stamen seem to be going in all different directions. Here is one that may demonstrate the long and short stamen for Roller Coaster Ride (sport of a sport of laevigata).
The flower on the left shows the anthers pretty clearly. The three anthers on the left would have the longer filaments while the three anthers on the right are attached to the shorter filaments.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Sep 01, 2017 10:14 pm

I showed this one a little while ago. I called it Shiny Gravel Weedling. It got stepped on at one point early in the season.
It opened its flowers and the are exactly the same as yingeri. The plant is a duplicate - it looks like the second photo of yingeri in the Hosta Library.
The baskets are to keep the critters from destroying the scapes.
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And the different length stamen - typical of yingeri type.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Sep 03, 2017 12:39 pm

Found this little guy this morning. I have been following the development of three good sized weedlings in my middle-front flower bed. They are done flowering now. I noticed a late scape in the area of the first (and plainest) of the group. When I went to inspect what was going on I noticed it was not the same weedling. This new one has a frosted leaf-back and some color on the scape.

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The leaves are the same shape as the weedling next to it on the right but the scapes are different.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Sep 14, 2017 10:35 am

Something nibbled part of the scape on this one. I showed this last season with tons of flowers on it.
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Re: Weedlings in the garden - are you saving some?

Postby redcrx » Sep 14, 2017 10:43 am

This one surprised me with a scape coming along. I think it's one of the Elegans type weedlings but it is really white on the leaf-back. Hopefully I get to see the flowers.
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